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I feel for the ordinary people in both countries, but that's a story told for 5000 years or so.

Otherwise I wish both would lose.

However, even to avoid a nuclear exchange, if Russia 'wins' I don't see how they escape the demographic trap they are in, even with some added Ukrainian "Russians." And how many will flee both countires? It's not like either one has a big problem with people rushing to get in even before the war.

As for suididal vs homicidal, some time after my divorce my mother told me she had "worried" about me. It was obvious she meant suicide. I had to tell her that she evidently didn't know me as well as se should. I wasn't anywhere near killing, or even wanting to kill, anyone. But if TSHTF I'm way more likely to be trying to take out the causal agents than do anything to myself.

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Demographic traps are relative. All Europeans nations are in a demographic trap, mostly of their own devise. At least the Russians seem to be trying to break out of theirs.

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Hoping some semblance of intelligence shows up along the way. Not holding my breath.

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Sep 10Liked by Bill Quick

[France will try to invoke Article Five to bring the U.S. into a direct confrontation]

I'm so old that I remember when France attempted to use Article Five to prevent the United States from responding militarily after 9/11 unless NATO members as a whole agreed.

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