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Aria Veritas's avatar

'What the hell is wrong with California'?

I'm a word-nerd (among other things. It's not an exclusive pastime).

Cali can be Kali- the vibration is the same. In Hebrew (via Goog. translate) Kali means 'tool'. So the banned guy here in comments for example, is a 'kali.'

But with the useful and oft-applied Proto-Indo-European hunch, the following makes more sense, particularly in San. Fran.. From the Puranic Encyclopedia Kali means Incarnation of sin; the Sin-god.

Other sources define Kali; "the name of a mind-born ‘divine mother’ (mātṛ), created for the purpose of drinking the blood of the Andhaka demons. According to the Matsya-purāṇa, “Most terrible they (e.g., Kālī) all drank the blood of those Andhakas and become exceedingly satiated.”"

Kālī means “blackness, night, the power of time.”

"She is the embodiment of all fear, while she herself is beyond fear and protects those from fear who invoke her. In Hindu iconology, she represents the supreme night, which devours all that exists. She is depicted as a fearful goddess with four arms, the Goddess of time and death."

And this source (all these definitions are collected/displayed in 'wisdomlib'):

"Kālī (‘the embodiment of Time’) is represented as the supreme night, which devours all that exists. She therefore stands upon the corpse of the destroyed universe. So long as the power that gives life to the universe remains predominant it is favourable, but when it is without strength it becomes as a corpse. The lifeless body is indeed the symbol of whatever is left of the manifested universe when it reverts to the natural state of eternal time. At the time of universal dissolution, the Power of Time, the power of destruction, is all that remains."

"The four arms of Kālī represent the four directions of space identified with the complete cycle of time. With her four arms, she stands as the symbol of the fulfilment of all and of the absoluteness of her dominion over all that exists."

"The conqueror laughs in her triumph. That laughter is the expression of absolute dominion over all that exists. It mocks at those who, in the folly of their vanity, hope to escape dissolution. It ridicules all those who cling to material existence and clutch their paltry possessions craving to continue their feeble existence in a cosmos in the grip of change and transformation."

So- That's Kali, same as Cali. Sounds like a fun friend to have in a tight spot.

Now take Fornia- a passing grasp of Italian and Latin one might immediately make out 'oven', which is forno in Italian. So bets on something to do with heat or fire...

(---Crowd goes wild--- ) Google translate confirms; fornia, Latin = ovens.

So what is going on in Kali Forno? The ovens of sin?

Hell. And Los Angeles hasn't even been mentioned.

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Bill Quick's avatar

Thanks! I'm a word nerd myself, although I never thought of putting the Hindu Kali (the bloodthirsty bitch) together with Italian ovens, even though Il Fornaio was one of my favorite San Francisco eateries when I lived there.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> And that is California’s true specialty: Taking tiny acorns and flash-growing them into world dominating forests.

And one can see the seed (pardon the pun) of the problem right there, not all acorns make good forests and flash-growing them means there's no time to weed out the bad ones.

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Bill Quick's avatar

Agreed. California doesn't judge them, it just grows them. Which is why you end up with things that make you say, "What the hell is wrong with California?"

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Fabius Minarchus's avatar

One obvious thing that's wrong: California is WAY to big to be a single state. Democracy does not scale. The bigger the electoral district the more people you have to influence in order to make a difference. At California scale, nothing short of professionals can sway most elections, even at the state house level.

Any state which is so big that a truly angry voter cannot affect a lower house election by knocking on doors is too big a state.

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Bill Quick's avatar

I've been a supporter of Glenn Reynolds' notion that we need something like 3500 federal house seats nationwide for exactly that reason.

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Kevin's avatar

Wasn't something like that originally the first amendment, just never ratified? If so, any way we could just go on ahead and ratify it now? Probably not, and more the pity, but it seems like it would at least help _some_...

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Jorg's avatar

We need to study more history. California became what it was from around 1920 thru 2000 for the same reasons Athens did, and Rome did, and Venice and Genoa did, and New York City did, etc.

It became a trade crossroads that welcomed and enabled lots of strangers, especially wealth-seeking entrepreneurs, into a self-reinforcing innovation swarm.

It will collapse for the same reason they did. Such wealth attract human parasites who feast on the efforts of the producers until they've exhausted them. Makers, Takers, and Fakers as always.

It's always the case that the descendants of the Makers at the top of the heap morph into Fakers or Takers (or both), and the attract the same to join and boost them. (I mean, what would you call that airhead Disney heir? She's certainly not a Maker of anything important or useful.) And they try to control or take or hobble the new entrepreneurs because they are mostly Fakers who merely want control.

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Bill Quick's avatar

I don't think the Makers morph that much, but their descendants most certainly do.

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Bill Quick's avatar

I lived there for 35 years and finally left seven years ago for good. But it wasn't that terrible when I arrived there in 1982.

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Javier Lopez's avatar

I thought it was 6000 years old. Oh well... back to the drawing board.

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Bill Quick's avatar

You seem to be fixating on fucking and coke-whores. Doesn't seem like a productive way to spend your energy.

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Bill Quick's avatar

Oh, fuck off, asshole. You're banned.

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